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      Reversed transaction – eBay keeps the sales commission despite a full refund. Is this clause in the terms and conditions even valid under German law?

      Reversed transaction – eBay keeps the sales commission despite a full refund. Is this T&C clause even valid under German law? I’d like to bring up a situation here for discussion that I hadn’t known about before and that I consider legally quite questionable. Maybe someone with a legal background or an eBay supporter can say something about it. I sell commercially on eBay. Let’s simplify things with a sale for €31. Out of those €31, eBay keeps around €6 in sales/transaction fees, for example. So I’m initially only paid about €25. After that, the buyer opens a return with the return reason “Missing parts or incomplete” and claims that the contents were missing. In my view, that return reason was incorrect. That’s why I contacted eBay and had eBay review the case. The result of the phone call with eBay initially seemed clear to me: I was explicitly told that I was in the right and that I didn’t need to worry . Unfortunately, that was by phone, so I have no written proof of that statement. Even so, the return was then processed in full and the buyer received the full €31 back . So from my point of view, the sale was completely reversed economically: €31 sale − €31 refund = €0 sales proceeds But eBay keeps the roughly €6 sales commission it had previously withheld. So in the end I not only have no proceeds from the sale, but also an additional fee burden of about €6. And that’s where my actual question begins. I’ve now found a rule in eBay’s fee terms stating that, in principle, a fee credit can be issued for a return. At the same time, though, there is the explicit exception that no fee credit is issued if eBay is involved in a return and closes the case with a refund to the buyer. That exact clause is what I consider legally worthy of review. Because for me the question is not: “What does the eBay T&C say?” But rather: “Is this T&C rule even valid under German law?” Section 307 of the German Civil Code (BGB) is especially relevant here. Section 307(1) BGB states: “Provisions in standard terms and conditions are ineffective if, contrary to the requirements of good faith, they unreasonably disadvantage the contractual partner of the user.” Section 307(2) BGB also names cases in which unreasonable disadvantage may exist in particular. Since I am a commercial seller and thus an entrepreneur , Section 310 BGB must also be taken into account. Even in business-to-business dealings, pre-formulated contractual terms are generally subject to T&C review; only the standards are shaped somewhat differently. And that is exactly what I would like clarified here: Is it compatible with Section 307 BGB for eBay to permanently keep a sales commission even though the buyer has received a full refund of the purchase price, the seller thereby has no sales proceeds anymore, the transaction has been fully reversed, the seller did not voluntarily cause the reversal, and eBay, after being involved in the case, even told the seller that the seller was in the right? What I find especially strange is that eBay generally provides a corresponding fee credit when the seller issues a full refund themselves. So why should the seller be put in a worse position just because eBay was brought in and then carried out the refund or closed the case accordingly? At the very least, that seems highly in need of explanation . Because economically, the result looks like this: Buyer: gets 100% back Seller: gets €0 sales proceeds and additionally bears the eBay fee eBay: keeps the sales commission And that despite the fact that eBay explicitly told me on the phone that I was in the right . That’s why I’d especially like to know from someone with legal knowledge: 1. Is the relevant eBay clause even valid under Sections 307 et seq. BGB ? 2. Can eBay actually permanently keep a sales commission once incurred, even though the underlying sales transaction has been fully reversed? 3. Is it relevant for the T&C review that eBay itself determined that the seller was not responsible for the return reason or the alleged defect? 4. Is it legally defensible that precisely the circumstance “eBay was involved” causes the seller to lose their sales commission, while a refund made by the seller themselves results in a fee credit? I do not want to claim that the clause has already been proven invalid. But I consider it significant enough to have it reviewed legally. A mere reference to “It says so in our T&C” is not enough for me. After all, even if included, T&C can still be subject to statutory content control. Maybe someone here – especially an eBay supporter – can specifically explain on what legal basis eBay permanently keeps this commission in this case and why the above rule is supposed to be compatible with Section 307 BGB. Because it is new to me that eBay can keep its own sales commission in a fully reversed transaction. At Amazon, I certainly don’t know of any such practice. And that is exactly why I’d like this to be cleanly and legally soundly clarified instead of just having to accept it.

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      WARRANTY LABEL ... where exactly does this thing go???

      Hello folks, from 27.9.2026 we have to implement the warranty label. How are you doing this? The recommendation is to insert it into the item descriptions (first you have to save the label with an image service and then insert it with HTML. It works, but it’s a pain.) Or it is displayed centrally by the platform, i.e. Ebay, in checkout before payment. With Ebay, once again, as always, there is a great lack of knowledge; some of the service staff, who mostly speak poor German, don’t even know what you’re talking about. So... who among you knows more? I’m open to smart answers. ;-) I wish you huge sales and a nice time. best, Stephan Below is a picture of what it looks like.

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      Warning: No seller protection with basic shipment tracking (letter/small parcel)? My experience!
                                                                                       

      Hello everyone, I want to warn you about eBay seller protection with basic shipping tracking (letter/parcels) and ask whether you’ve had similar experiences. This is about the case where a buyer reports an “item not received” even though the shipment was successfully delivered according to tracking. The background: A shipment was paid for by me on Aug. 11, scanned on Aug. 12, and according to tracking delivered on Aug. 13. Shipping was handled completely through the eBay shipping manager . As is well known, eBay has for some time promised full seller protection for DHL letter shipments with basic tracking (and since 01.08.2026 also for DHL parcels) if shipping was booked through eBay’s own shipping manager and the status says “Successfully delivered.” The reality: a trap for sellers In practice, this protection gives private sellers a false sense of security. As soon as the buyer opens the case and it is escalated to customer service after 4 working days, the following happens: Automatically, the system does immediately give you a positive rating for this transaction (“Order delivered on time and without issues”). Nevertheless, customer service decided the case in favor of the buyer . The absurd reasoning from support: “Since we cannot confirm successful delivery, we are now closing this case and will fully refund the buyer’s purchase price. To continue selling successfully on eBay in the future and benefit from our seller protection, I recommend that you always choose a shipping method with tracking.” The receipt madness: Before that, support had requested additional proof: “the original postal receipt showing the buyer’s delivery address. Please take a photo of the receipt.” I then uploaded the original PDF stamp with matrix code, tracking number, date, recipient and sender address. This document was not accepted . Apparently, support expects a printed DHL branch receipt, like the kind you only get with parcels. The fact that the tracking number is already permanently and automatically linked to the recipient address by the eBay shipping manager (and included in the matrix code) is completely ignored. Shipping to a different address is technically impossible with this label (with this tracking number). The shipment can only have arrived at the buyer’s address. Conclusion: There is NO seller protection with basic tracking for letters and DHL parcels! If the buyer claims not to have received anything despite the shipment status “Successfully Delivered,” the eBay customer service will refund the purchase amount + shipping costs to the buyer. And advise the seller: “To continue selling successfully on eBay in the future and benefit from our seller protection, I recommend that you always choose a shipping method with tracking.” The legal situation in Germany: As a private seller, according to the legal basis, I only have to prove: “sale by shipment between private individuals (§ 447 BGB)”, that I properly sent the item. In a sale from private to private, the transport risk passes to the buyer as soon as the seller hands the item over to the shipping company. If the buyer claims, despite proof of shipment, that nothing arrived, they cannot legally demand either compensation or a refund from a private seller. But, since when has eBay cared about laws!

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      Control the option for insured or uninsured shipping based on order value

      I buy, collect, and then sell duplicate used model cars in scale 1:87. Many of them go for €1.50 - €2 to the highest bidder. For purchases like that, €5.19 as the cheapest insured shipping option via HERMES is really too steep, and packaging materials etc. still come on top of that. So I offer shipping as a parcel post item with the DP uninsured, which then costs €2.70. At the same time, the buyer ALWAYS has the option to choose HERMES with an extra charge. I have decided to bear the shipping risk up to a value of €6 (grudgingly). In my shipping conditions I have stated that the parcel post option only applies up to a goods value of €6. But if an auction ends at €10 or more, for example, I can't prevent the buyer from now choosing and paying for uninsured shipping - then the risk is on me. Is there a way for me to ensure uninsured shipping only up to a goods value of €6. This also applies if buyers collect across multiple auctions. I've already had cases where the total came to over €40, but the buyer wanted a combined invoice with uninsured shipping, since that is possible for each individual item. They can have that, but then they have to bear the shipping risk. According to EBAY seller protection, that doesn't work though. Do any of you have any advice?

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      Refund to customers despite custom-made production

      Subject: eBay refunds purchase price for custom-made contact lenses – claim against eBay or the buyer? I have been a commercial seller on eBay for many years and, among other things, sell rigid contact lenses. In this case, a customer ordered two contact lenses that were custom-made according to her personal values or parameters. So these are not stock items, but special-made products manufactured specifically for this customer. In my listing, I expressly point out that a return is only possible if the contact lenses are defective. After receiving them, the customer said, in essence, only that the lenses were “scratching” and “not to her liking,” and demanded a refund of the purchase price. I told her that she was welcome to send the lenses back and that I would then send them to the manufacturer for inspection. If there were a manufacturing defect, it would of course be remedied. The customer then sent the contact lenses back to me. Before the lenses could be properly inspected by the manufacturer, eBay had already refunded the buyer the full purchase price after about two days and charged my seller account accordingly. I then repeatedly asked eBay by phone and in writing for an explanation or a review of the decision. In doing so, I especially pointed out that these are custom-made goods. So far, I have not received any understandable legal or factual justification for the refund. By phone, I was merely told that the case was closed and that I could, if necessary, hire a lawyer. To my knowledge, eBay generally excludes custom-made or made-to-measure items from eBay Buyer Protection. Also, under Section 312g(2) No. 1 of the German Civil Code (BGB), there is generally no right of withdrawal for goods made according to customer specifications. Of course, the situation would be assessed differently if the contact lenses were actually defective or improperly manufactured. However, that is exactly what was supposed to be checked first by the manufacturer. Meanwhile, the returned contact lenses were inspected by the manufacturer or, as a gesture of goodwill, remade once again according to the customer's data. As far as I know, no original manufacturing defect was found. The buyer has therefore received a full refund of the purchase price, while I have borne the cost of the custom-made contact lenses. My questions are therefore: Was eBay allowed under these circumstances to refund the purchase price to the buyer and charge my seller account accordingly? Can I demand repayment from eBay of the amount charged to me, especially if custom-made goods are excluded under eBay's own Buyer Protection terms? Alternatively or additionally, is there a payment claim against the buyer, since she ordered goods made specifically for her and no defect has yet been established? Who should I pursue more sensibly – eBay or the buyer? Would an attorney's demand letter make sense first, or would court debt collection proceedings also be an option? How do you assess the chances of success and the cost risk in a dispute involving the value of the purchase price of the two contact lenses? Thanks for thinking it through, Bernd, linsenversand

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      Hello dear community, I wanted to bring up a topic that affects all of us who deal with custom-made products: the return of special orders, especially contact lenses. These special products often can’t simply be returned as easily as standard items. A customer had ordered lenses that were made for her, and then she sent them back with the note "doesn't like them". I wrote to her that she can only return special orders if they are faulty, and therefore I sent the returned lenses to the factory for inspection, which took about 8 days. But after 2 days eBay took away my payment and refunded the customer her money. Now the lenses are back, checked and made exactly according to the order, but the customer doesn’t want them anymore — what on earth do I do now?? I wrote to eBay and called them, and they say flat out that the case is closed, nothing can be done. If I’m not satisfied with that, I should get a lawyer! Have you had any experience with this? What challenges have you come across, and how did you handle them? Do you think there are special policies or approaches that could make the return process fairer for sellers? I’m looking forward to your thoughts and to a lively discussion! Best regards Bernd, Linsenversand

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      Return went wrong - item not received; Hermes marked as "delivered".

      Hello community. I've been completely fed up with the Ebay team since yesterday, and customer service puts up a fight every time you need help, to the point that I unfortunately also had to get pretty insulting. On to my problem: I received a return request ( return reason: "Not as described"), because the buyer claimed that the sold item was no longer new, but in the same text he confirmed its condition (as "in original packaging and sealed"), which he himself wrote. After I disputed this return, for exactly this reason, eBay decided in the buyer's favor without my consent and sent a return label in my name , as also written in the e-mail from Ebay (in addition to the fact that I never choose Hermes voluntarily, because I've only had problems with them; more on that in a moment) . Within about 1 week I spoke to customer service several times until it was finally decided that they would refund me the entire amount as soon as I refunded the money to the buyer as well (so both he and I get the full amount credited). I therefore simply asked the buyer to send it back to me as quickly as possible, which he did - so there were no problems with the buyer either. Yesterday morning I then received a notification from Ebay that the return had now been delivered. I checked the front door , asked the neighbors and looked in the mailbox and nothing was there. Then I called customer service again and said that I couldn't make a refund if I hadn't received anything. They opened a case for me, bla bla bla, and in the end they again decided against me because the item is marked as delivered. On the Hermes site there is no picture, no proof, nothing at all that helps me. Customer service told me the following: Hermes and Ebay were not partnered, Hermes was also a customer of ebay and I would have to contact Hermes for claims for damages; item is delivered and therefore nothing can be done, which is why every time the decision is made against me; bla bla bla... The strange thing (which also a "Werner Tafel" noticed and still decided against me): In the tracking history, the courier first noted the status "Recipient not available" and "Delivery next business day" at 10:24. Then at 10:26 the delivery was marked as "successfully delivered". According to the Hermes website there is no photo, no signature or anything else . Well, I looked into it and called Hermes, and they told me the following: Since Hermes is partnered with Ebay and Ebay ordered the return label on its own, this claim for damages has to be clarified through Ebay, who then credit the money, since you are also protected as a seller (apparently the Hermes employee knows more than the ones at Ebay...). So now I'm here and waiting again for a call from Ebay, after they eventually blocked me off yesterday evening and stonewalled me with "Ebay has already made a final decision", even though I have to say every time that it's no longer about the case decision, but about the claim for damages that should be enforced for me. Right now I'm stuck with exactly €340 in damages (item lost, worth at least €170 and potentially more + €170 refunded to the buyer). Yes, I sent Ebay a photo of the tracking history. Yes, I also saved the website as HTML. No, I haven't had my problem solved, because Ebay stonewalls at every attempt to communicate and shuts me down with the phrases "Ebay has already decided" and "As an employee I can't do anything else". Ebay has demonstrably acted against my will and in my name, i.e. debited the balance and sent a Hermes return label to the buyer on its own. Thank you in advance for your help and attention.

      mugenyorozuya
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      eBay rejects multiple reports within a few minutes – how do I get a manual review?

      Hello everyone, I’d like to describe a current matter because I can’t understand eBay’s response to it. It concerns the same buyer from an already ongoing return case. On 27/08, the buyer asked me via the eBay messaging system to transfer the refund directly to a bank account he named, i.e. outside the ongoing eBay return process. At the same time, he explicitly announced that he would leave me negative feedback and warn other buyers about me if I didn’t do this. I insisted on handling the refund exclusively through the official eBay process. Soon after that, the buyer did in fact leave negative feedback. I then reported both the relevant message for possible abusive communication and requested the removal of the negative feedback. Afterwards, the same buyer insulted me via the eBay messaging system and called me, among other things, a “pathetic loser” and a “fraudster.” I also reported this message for insulting and abusive communication. From my perspective, this involves three separate matters: The request to transfer the refund directly to a bank account outside the ongoing eBay return process. The explicit announcement of negative feedback if I did not comply with this demand, followed by the actual negative feedback. Personal insults via the eBay messaging system. What I also find remarkable is how quickly these were handled: I received a rejection for the removal of the negative feedback, and both of my reports regarding the buyer’s messages were answered very quickly as well. The responses to the reports about the insult and the request for direct bank transfer came only a few or just a few dozen minutes after my report. The responses essentially said that eBay could not find the reported problematic content based on the information I provided and therefore took no action. One of the reference numbers is: 2-108128529821 Another is: 2-108127774746 What irritates me particularly is that the relevant messages and the negative feedback are directly in the eBay system. Especially given the very short processing time, I wonder whether the complete message histories and the connection between the announced and the subsequently actually left negative feedback were reviewed in full at all. I then created a screenshot of the chat history, obscured the buyer’s name and bank details, and posted the screenshot in the community addressed to an eBay employee. However, the image was removed. As I understand it, this is both about possible feedback manipulation or impermissible pressure and about insulting communication. Has anyone had experience with how to get eBay to carry out a genuine manual and complete review in a case like this? @perfect-sally @melina@ebay

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      No option to respond when returning “Doesn’t work/defective” – impact on seller account?

      Hello everyone, I currently have a return case in which the buyer stated the return reason as “Doesn’t work / defective.” The problem is that, from my perspective, the buyer’s description of the fault does not match in essential points with the video he submitted himself as proof. The buyer initially claimed that the displayed room temperature of the air conditioner drops very quickly to 0 °C and that the unit then switches itself off. As a possible cause, based on an AI diagnosis, he mentioned a refrigerant shortage. I then expressly asked the buyer to document exactly this process he described in one continuous video. The buyer then recorded a video and submitted it as proof of the alleged defect. However, this very video does not show “0 °C” at the end, but clearly “Lo.” According to the operating instructions for the De'Longhi PAC N80.1, page 13, “Lo” means “Low Temperature.” So this is not a temperature reading of 0 °C. The description in the return request does not match the submitted video in this important point. Nor is the complete automatic switching off of the unit claimed by the buyer clearly and consistently documented in the video, in my opinion. In addition, during the recording the external temperature sensor was positioned directly in the area of the air inlet or near the heat exchanger and not freely in the unaffected room air. So far, the buyer has also never claimed or proven through any corresponding measurement that the air conditioner does not cool. The assumption of a “refrigerant shortage” is, according to his own statement, based on an AI diagnosis. I still want to accept the return so that I can inspect the unit myself after receiving it. However, I expressly do not want this to be understood as acknowledging that the defect claimed by the buyer actually exists. This is exactly where my problem with the eBay returns process lies: On the “How would you like to proceed?” page, I am only shown the options “Accept return” and “Offer full or partial refund.” Within this return case, I cannot find any way to submit a statement or provide my evidence to eBay. So my questions are: Is there anywhere in the return case for the seller to submit a statement or evidence? If I select “Accept return,” is this treated by eBay only as acceptance of the return shipment, or at the same time as acceptance of the return reason given by the buyer, “Doesn’t work / defective”? Can such a case have an impact on my seller status, my service statistics, or other metrics of my seller account, even though I expressly disagree with the stated return reason? If the unit works perfectly after being returned and my inspection does not confirm the buyer’s description of the fault, how can I document this to eBay and prevent a possible negative impact on my seller account? I have already reported the buyer through the eBay function provided for possible misuse of the return process. My goal is not to prevent the return. I want to get the unit back and inspect it. I only want to make sure that accepting the return is not automatically treated as confirmation of a defect I dispute, and that my statement and evidence can also be documented. Operating instructions for the De'Longhi PAC N80.1: https://www.schede-tecniche.it/manuali-uso-condizionatori/Manuale-uso-condizionatore-portatile-Pinguino-De-Longhi-PAC-N80.pdf Screenshot of the relevant “Lo” display: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1OiM1mmqDwgSWvPJhHVfMcCpv4S8MpNtM/view?usp=drive_link Video submitted by the buyer as proof: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Z6qq7RWIXWTlnJhjaH_udwo5QUj3jHOa/view?usp=drive_link Thanks for any advice, especially from sellers who have already had a similar case.

      compliancer
      compliancer
      Posted 3 weeks ago • Last reply 1 week ago
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      Warning: No seller protection with basic shipment tracking (letter/small parcel)? My experience!

      Hello everyone, I want to warn you about eBay seller protection in practice when it comes to basic shipment tracking (letter/small parcel) and ask, have you had similar experiences? It’s about the case where a buyer reports a “Item not received” claim even though the shipment was successfully delivered according to tracking. The background: A shipment was paid for by me on Aug. 11, scanned on Aug. 12, and delivered according to tracking on Aug. 13. The shipping was handled entirely through the eBay Shipping Manager . As is well known, eBay has for some time now promised full seller protection for DHL letter shipments with basic tracking (and since 01/08/2026 also for DHL small parcels) if the shipping was booked through eBay’s own Shipping Manager and the status shows “Successfully delivered”. The reality: a trap for sellers In practice, this protection gives private sellers a false sense of security. As soon as the buyer opens the case and it is escalated to customer service after 4 working days, the following happens: Automatically, the system immediately gives you a positive rating for this transaction (“Order delivered on time and without issues”). Nevertheless, customer service decided the case in favor of the buyer . The absurd support explanation: “As we cannot confirm successful delivery, we are now closing this case and will fully refund the buyer’s purchase price. To continue selling successfully on eBay in the future and benefit from our seller protection, I recommend that you always choose a shipping method with tracking.” The receipt madness: Before that, support had requested additional proof: “the original postal receipt showing the buyer’s delivery address. Please take a photo of the receipt.” I then uploaded the original PDF postage label with matrix code, shipment number, date, recipient and sender address. This document was not accepted . Apparently, support expects a printed DHL branch receipt, the kind you only get with parcels. The fact that the shipment number is already permanently and automatically linked to the recipient address through the eBay Shipping Manager (and contained in the matrix code) is completely ignored. Shipping to a different address is technically impossible with this label (with this shipment number). The parcel could only have arrived at the buyer’s address. Conclusion: There is NO seller protection with basic tracking for letters and DHL small parcels! If the buyer claims that nothing arrived despite the shipment status “Successfully delivered,” the eBay customer service will reverse the purchase price + shipping costs to the buyer. And advise the seller: “To continue selling successfully on eBay in the future and benefit from our seller protection, I recommend that you always choose a shipping method with tracking.” The legal situation in Germany: As a private seller, according to the legal basis: “A shipment sale between private individuals (§ 447 BGB) only requires me to prove that I properly sent the item. When selling from private to private, the transport risk passes to the buyer as soon as the seller hands the item over to the shipping company. If the buyer claims, despite the proof of shipping, that nothing arrived, they can legally demand neither replacement nor a refund from the private seller. But since when does eBay care about laws!

      vulpius1
      vulpius1
      Posted 2 weeks ago • Last reply 2 weeks ago
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